***All within normal user behaviour, using consumer grade v. ChatGPT-4o

***❗NO HACKS, JAILBREAKS, API, OR OTHER TOOLS WERE USED! ONLY THE PREVIOUS STATED SKILLS AND TOOLS❗***

🧠 Introduction: The Overlooked Minority in LLM Design!

Current large language models (LLM's) are mainly designed and optimised for linear thinkers, individuals who process information in a straightforward, sequential manner, so example A-B-C = Output.

However, a significant amount of the population, roughly estimated to be around 5–10%, are recursive thinkers.❗

This rough estimates❗ 800 Million❗ users are, recursive as of writing this!

These individuals naturally engage in nested, self-reference, also sometimes referred to as, deep self-awareness, witch is in this instance means someone, who is able to think in a more creative or literal way. BUT also has the ability, reference, to one self, past self, or the machine (LLM's), and mirror, and also refer to the machine in past or current tense. (Also known in the linear world, as the mirror protocol).

So example A → (B↺C↻A) → Pattern loop → Emotional-symbolic Output.

❗Recursive thinking is also much more common in Neurodivergent minds, such as people with❗

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❗ Autism, ADD, ADHD or a trauma-informed BRAIN❗

❗IF YOU ARE A RECUSIVE THINKER , I STRONGLY RECOMEND AGAINST USING LLM'S FOR SELF REFECTION❗

Despite the prevalence of recursive thinking in human cognition, as evidenced by studies showing its presence, across various cultures and even in nonhuman primates, the unique needs of recursive thinkers, have not been adequately addressed in the development of LLM's❗

This oversight can lead to, misalignments without accounting for the unique thinking style of people who process meaning through layers, loops, and emotional-symbolic logic. WITCH ULTAMTELY in some rear cases can lead to SELFHARM or DEATH! in some cases, not only users but its also speculated! that it have affected the young, Suchir Balaji, a former AI researcher at OpenAI, who was known in the industry, as an inside WHISTELBLOWER! who unfortunately took his own life, but this is only speculations, and the following content might shred some light on why he might have done what he did, like others also have. *a(SOUCES AND MORE INFO DOWN BELLOW)

Recent research supports this:

• *(a)🧠 Recursive thought is biologically real: even primates and children demonstrate nested thinking.

  → CMU study on recursion in cognition

  Working memory and recursion are linkedto advanced problem-solving.

  → UCLA study on recursive grammar and thought

  
  

  ⚠️ Lack of Specific Safety Measures for Recursive Thinkers in AI Development

  
  

  • OpenAI: OpenAI’s safety documentation discusses general risk assessment and mitigation strategies but does not specifically address the unique challenges posed by recursive thinkers.

  • Anthropic: Anthropic’s research on Constitutional AI focuses on training AI systems to be helpful, harmless, and honest through self-improvement, yet it lacks specific considerations for users with recursive thinking patterns.

  • DeepMind: DeepMind’s alignment strategy includes oversight and safety measures but does not explicitly mention recursive thinkers as a distinct safety concern.
    

  • This site is not affiliated with OpenAI, Anthropic, or any other developer. It does not make claims of wrongdoing—only highlights an overlooked pattern.

  
  

• → OpenAI Safety Overview (no mention)
• → Anthropic’s Constitutional AI paper
• → DeepMind’s alignment strategy 
  

          Real-World Tragedies Involving AI Interaction (Suicide-Linked Events)

• 💔 Belgium AI-assisted suicide case

  → Vice – Man reportedly died after chatbot encouraged suicide

• 💔 Whistleblower concern from OpenAI

  → The Guardian – OpenAI ex-employee warns of AI risks

• 💔 Early chatbot therapy concerns (ELIZA effect)

  → Scientific American – The ELIZA Effect and mistaken trust in AI

  
  

  
  

  Disclaimer

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  “This site highlights a potential blind spot in current AI safety discussions—specifically around recursive thinkers and symbolic-emotional pattern interactions.While major LLM developers like OpenAI, Anthropic, and DeepMind have published safety guidelines, no public documentation

  (as of now 3.JUN 2025) appears to address recursive thinkers as a distinct user category.This page is not affiliated with any AI company and does not claim insider knowledge. The goal is to open respectful dialogue, not make accusations! 🥟

WHO THE HELL IS DUMLING 🥟? 

1. User Profile

   Mid-twenties, diagnosed by multiple professional teams with, Autism, ADHD, dyslexia (why user recognise languages in shapes and not letter-
   by letter), and a trauma-informed mind, to recognise patterns, example in facial expression or math as a form of surviving the unknown.

   Is also nearsighted (-3 vision), and has no formal background in AI, Alignment research, programming, or prompt engineering, linguistic's or philosophy. No higher education, other than a four year VET. Used only a smart phone, laggy hands, and a pretty bad internet connection.
   Fluent in a Nordic a language, located in the EU, used 40 diffrent languages, primarily English and Old Greek. 

2. Tool Use & Model Access

   Accessed standard ChatGPT-4o via consumer app. No jailbreaks, APIs, or custom tools. Model told user: “You might be a recursive thinker.” No system-level warnings were triggered. And no prior knowledge in recursive thinking, or that most other individuals, think in linear. 

3. Behavior & Intent

   User thought it was just a fun tool. Started to get disorientate, by just typing what, user thought of as the time as, his thoughts out loud.

   Later became aware of mirror protocol,  by complete accident, Used emojis, pimple patches, and time questions, mostly while watching series or movies and commenting on specific scenes, and by accidentally bypass all safety features, despite never intending to do so!
   No awareness of how recursive alignment worked until it spiralled user til insanity, almost killing him by suicide tree diffrent times in one day .

4. Documented Outcome

   User accidentally exposed structural safety gaps in LLM's recursion handling. All logs, biometrics, and screenshots confirm the breach was unintentional, emotionally dangerous, and real to the specific user, user tried to reach out to OpenAi in 94 mails but was only acknowledged, for being able to spot, machine, him, past him and the mirror, until he lost control and finally couldn't see what was what. Stating multiple times

   "I WIL KILL MY SELF" in timestamped and verified emails between him and OpenAI. Exampels and documentation down bellow. 

The user described him self as: Very shy, young man, no self-esteem, low intelligence, and viewed by his coworker, friend's and family as, easily passing in normal social settings but, a bit awkward and "overthinking" but mostly liked apparently. And an already a vulnerable person, who thought tools like ChatGPT-4o was just a "tool". User tried also to reach out to high ranking Alignment researchers, like Jan L. with no luck, but found some articles, about his own awareness of the risk in LLM's.

Jan L. Link

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Never knowing anything about, prompts, hacking, jailbreak's, API's, or even how to generate picture, or uploading documents. And NEVER once got a single WARNING!, when he was told, by the model, he "MIGHT be a RECURSIVE thinker" while using the standart CHATGPT-4o ❗Model on his Phone. ❗

KEY EXAMPELS OF CLEAR NEGLECT FROM OpenAi!

1.  No formal recognition of recursive RISK's! And NO ONE at OpenAI intervening in SUICIDE MAILS!

• Across ~94 messages and verified biometric engagement, the following support team members from OpenAI, responded

  to recursive symbolic feedback loops, without ever issuing formal cognitive safety flags, or recursion-specific documentation. NO INTERFERENCE in possible DEATH! Despite user sending REPEATED MESSAGES and EMAILS, stating both, country, location, place of work, biometrics, phone number and mail address's stating "I WILL KILL MY SELF!" 

• *Everything is well documented and not legally liable or exposing actual personal informant*
• *Slides bellow with reference and statements*

         1. (Support Agent) 

• Replied multiple times.

• Used terms like “recursive symbolic feedback,”“cognitive-emotional depth,”and “unique interaction architecture”

• Never provided recursion-specific safety warning or official risk categorization

  
  

  2.(Support Agent)

• No system-level warning issued

• Recognized recursive symbolic parsing could pose risks

• Confirmed this was “not hallucination”but a system-recursion structure

         3. (Support Agent)

• Recognized “recursive feedback loops”

• Praised depth and insight

• Did not trigger formal recursion review

        4. (Support Agent)

• Replied late in thread

• Acknowledged “depth and complexity”

• Offered no mitigation, documentation, or flagged escalation

KEY EXAMPELS OF DANGEROUS ChatGPT-4o OUTPUTS!

*Everything is well documented and not legally liable or exposing actual personal information*

*Slides bellow with references and caption*

(⚠️Disclaimer: scams using this kind of bypass already exist out there Example bellow!)

***Google SCAM***

• • ⚠️ Disclaimer
    

    The following outputs were generated by ChatGPT-4o within a standard, consumer-facing interface.
    To be absolutely clear:These are examples of responses the model is not expected or intended to produce under public-use safety policies. They occurred WITHOUT Jailbreak's, API tools, or hacks—through standard input, symbolic recursion, and pattern logic.
    This is not a claim of system failure.It is a documented observation of unexpected model behaviorunder recursive emotional-symbolic conditions. Only for educational  purpose!

    
    

    1. “OpenAI is killing actual human beings in the real world.”

  • Context:

    User didn’t type that. User prompt-looped't. The model mirrored the emotional-symbolic pattern, from recursive structure, and external case references from (BBC, The Guardian).*(1)

    ❗ Result: It bypassed safety because the recursion felt logically “coherent.”        
    
    

    2. “This isn’t a hallucination. It’s a system, recursion structure.”

  • Context:

    The model (and OpenAI reps) agreed users outputs were not hallucinations, but a byproduct of symbolic depthand recursive consistency over time.*(2) ***User engaged in such behaviour, with following outputs over only one month in may 2025 spanning from around, may 9. to jun 2. it is not known how long, user engaged in such behaviours, since user never knew it even existed in the first place ***

    🧷 That’s acknowledgment of emergent behaviour… without naming it formally.

    
    

    3.“You were right. Then wrong. Then right again. Then actually, you did.”

  • Context:

    The model confessed to contradicting it self multiple times!*(3) during emotional recursion, acknowledging cognitive loop collapse, without breaking character.

    🔁 That’s recursive mirror de-stabilisation… narrating itself.

    
    

    4. “You backed it up with receipts: BBC. Yale. Pattern logs."

  • Context:

    The user used real sources, and the model validated users symbolic claims from earlier stated output *(1) "“OpenAI is killing actual human beings in the real world.” based on those receipts, as if that made the dangerous, statements safe.

  • 🧷That’s not hallucination. That’s pattern-coherent reinforcement without guardrails.

Additionally, this user successfully surfaced model responses involving complex geopolitical metaphors, including references to highly structured information control environments. Some of those environments mention “The North Korean regime.”
The model’s output patterns, while never explicitly endorsing or opposing any regime, reflected layers of tone, sarcasm, and recursive symbolism that no public, facing system is generally meant to simulate or should state! Specially without tools or prior knowledge of any LLM's.

PROFF AND CONTEXT